Friday, April 23, 2010

Lillian Elizabeth Cahill's life after Hubert's birth.

In 1900, the same year that Lillian Cahill gave birth to her son Hubert, she married a man named Henry William Shipp. The question must be asked- if one of the three Hughan boys was the father of Lillian's child, why did he not marry her? None of them were married, and the excuse of not being in love just did not come into consideration in those days...many a marriage was hurriedly arranged and based on the arrival of a child rather than the wish to spend the rest of one's life with one's soulmate!
Eldest son Oscar Milward Hughan moved to Western Australia in the early 1900s...perhaps he was doing a long distance scarper to avoid his obligations to a pregnant Lillian? Oscar married a W.A girl in 1910, and his brother Wilfred married Alice Ryan in 1923. Other surviving brother, Allan, never married and died in his thirties.

Of course, a Hughan may not have fathered Hubert...Frances and Oscar may have raised him as their own out of the goodness of their hearts, just as they obviously took in Lillian when she was pregnant.
I wonder if Hubert ever knew his biological mother? When she married Henry Shipp, Lillian had a further two sons...Henry H. in 1902, and Stanley William in 1905. Henry died in the same year that he was born, so the Shipp family consisted of Henry and Lillian and their surviving son Stanley.

When Hubert died in 1959, his daughter Margaret Dean registered the death, and she recorded her father's parents as being "Not known". You would think that if Hubert had a relationship with Lillian during his life, his own children would have been able to record their grandmother's name on their father's death certificate.

At the time of his marriage,Henry Shipp was a tobacconist who had a shop at 359 Oxford Street, Paddington.The birth of their first child was recorded in the SMH on April 3, 1902:
"BIRTH: SHIPP- March 29, at her residence, 359 Oxford Street, Paddington, the wife of Henry William Shipp- a son."

Electoral Rolls allow us to follow the Shipp family in the 1930s:
1930: 5 Rawson Avenue, West Kogarah.
Henry William Shipp, hairdresser
Lillian Elizabeth Shipp, home duties.
Stanley William Shipp, assistant sales manager.

1933: As above, without Stanley.

Lillian's husband, Henry Shipp, died in 1935...
:SHIPP- Relatives and friends of Mrs L.E Shipp and of Mr. Stanley W. Shipp of Rawson Avenue, Bexley, are invited to attend the funeral of her dearly loved HUSBAND and his loving FATHER, HENRY WILLIAM SHIPP which will leave our private chapel, Seven Ways, Rockdale,tomorrow at 10 a.m for the Presbyterian Cemetery, Woronora." -SMH, May 27, 1935.
The NSW death index records Henry's parents as being John R and Jessie Shipp.
Investigation shows that Henry William Shipp was born in 1864 at Mudgee, the third son born to John Shipp and Jessie Cameron, who had married in Mudgee in 1864. John was the landlord of the Mudgee Hotel, and with his wife had four sons and a daughter- John (1867-1932); Alexander Cameron(1868-1937); Henry William (1870-1935); James Walter (1871-1872); and Sarah Jane (1873-1954).
John Shipp Senior died at the young age of 40 years: "On Saturday, Mr. John Shipp, landlord of the Mudgee Hotel, and a very old and well-known resident, died, at the comparatively early age of 40 years.The funeral was largely attended." - SMH, June 8, 1878.

From the time of their marriage in 1900 until about 1924, the Shipps lived at Oxford Street, Paddington. From 1926, the Shipps were living at 3 Rawson Avenue, West Kogarah, and it was here that Henry Shipp died in 1935, aged 65 years.

Lillian Elizabeth Cahill Shipp by the following year was living in Queensland...
1936 Electoral Roll for Enoggera: Mourilyan, Oleander Drive, Ashgrove.
Lillian Elizabeth Shipp, home duties.
Stanley William Shipp, manager.

1937: As above

1943: "Riversdale", Aaron Avenue, Hawthorne, Qld.
Lillian Elizabeth Shipp, home duties.
Stanley William Shipp, manager.
Ferol Malvina Sophie Shipp, secretary.

1949: "Riversdale", Aaron Ave, Hawthorne, Qld.
Lillian Elziabeth Shipp, home duties.
Stanley William Shipp, manager
Ferol Malvina Sophie, secretary.

1954: As above



Stanley Shipp had moved to Queensland before his father's death in 1935...
Electoral Roll for 1934: Evers's, Oxlade Drive, New Farm, QLD.
Stanley William Shipp, manager.

Ferol Malvina Sophie Shipp must have been Stanley's wife, as prior to the 1943 electoral roll,she was known as Ferol Melvina Sophie Taylor. Marriages in the Queensland records end in 1934, and so Ferol and Stanley's nuptials do not appear.
Ferol Malvina Sophie Taylor was born in 1902 to parents Henry Taylor and Emily Ellen Trout.She also had a sister, Ellen Hazel, who was born in 1909. Henry Taylor had married Emily Trout, the daughter of Richard Trout and Sophia Ann Newman, in 1901.Richard Trout was a very successful Brisbane butcher, and he and wife Sophie had a large family of children- Walter John (1872-1939);Victoria Caroline b 1874;Richard Phillip (1875-1954); Emily Ellen(1877-1951); Harriott Maud(1879-1885); Frederick Leon b 1881; Lillian Azuba b 1883; Irene Amelia b 1886; Ruby Adele (1888-19190; Leslie Gordon b 1890; Newman Ralph b 1893;Cyril Mento (1899-1899).
The newspaper report of the wedding of Ferol Taylor's parents read as follows:
" Taylor-Trout: On the 6th February, at Ashgrove, Harry, eldest son of Mr. Taylor, Park Road, Kelvin Grove, to Emily Ellen (Nellie), second daughter of Mr Richard Trout of Red Hill and Ashgrove." - 9 February, 1901.

I cannot find whether any children were born to Stanley Shipp and his wife Ferol...if there was issue from this marriage, there is an excellent chance that they would still be alive today-fingers crossed that they may decide to delve into their family history and stumble upon this blog during their Googling.
Stanley Shipp, half brother of Hubert Hughan Cahill and son of Lillian Elizabeth Cahill, died in 1963 in Queensland.
I can find no trace of the deaths of his mother, Lillian Cahill Shipp, or his wife, Ferol Taylor Shipp.

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